Why is this ok?

“Someone” is marrying Charles Manson!!!!???  Personally I don’t think that a convicted mass murderer should have the right to marry, get an education or any other privileges that many of us are not entitled to. He took the lives of 7 and changed the lives of their families forever, not to mention the lives of those who “followed” him.

I found the following article written by Dane Fallon,

As Charles Manson obtains a marriage license to wed a 26-year-old, many people have pointed out that while a mass murderer has the right to legally marry, gay couples in 17 American states can not.

The 80-year-old, in jail in California for the murders of seven people, plans to marry Afton Elaine Burton, who has spent the past nine years trying to help exonerate him.

Burton is convinced Manson’s innocent, and she runs multiple sites that support him. She says they’re going to have the wedding next month, and adds, “Y’all can know that it’s true! It’s going to happen.” Manson’s 26-year-old soon to be wife Burton also says, “I love him, I’m with him. There’s all kinds of things.”
Charles Manson has his marriage license to wed 26-year-old Afton Elaine Burton. Terry Thornton, the California Department of Corrections spokeswoman, confirms that the license has been transferred to the prison. The license says the couple has 90 days to get married, otherwise they will have to reapply for a new one.

Manson’s 26-year-old fiance claims the wedding would’ve happened earlier, but Manson had some ‘situations’ in February. These ‘situations’ have been revealed as three violations, being possession of a weapon, refusal to turn over a urine sample, and making threats to the prison staff.

Manson is able to invite 10 guests that aren’t inmates to his wedding. He can also invite an officiate to perform the ceremony. Seeing he’s a prisoner for life with no parole date, Manson is not allowed to have family visits, therefore he can’t have his children present.

Charles Manson has received a license to marry 26-year-old Afton Elaine Burton.

What are your thoughts on Manson getting married?

Do you think a convicted murderer has the right to have a wedding?


Arizona on my mind….

An Atypical AngieGrapevine Post

Sorry guys I couldn’t help myself
I have Gay and Lesbian friends and family and this really struck a cord with me on many levels!

Another controversial post…but here goes, I know everyone has different views, opinions and beliefs and I respect that
Or do I…..?
I find it hard to respect the beliefs of some Arizona Government officials…
But I’m going to stand on my old soap box once again…

angies soap box
Yesterday I read an article about Bill SB 1062 which primarily targets the LGBT community but it also targets people of different Religion.
Some will disagree with me as I disagree with Bill SB 1062-the bill that would have legalized discrimination by private businesses, corporations and their employees.
Legalize Discrimination??!!  

* I can’t understand what makes a man hate another man, Help me understand*

People such as Nelson Mandela, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks,  Satyarthi, Eleanor Roosevelt, Bill Siksay, Svend Robinson the list goes on and on, these brave and exceptional human beings  have fought for equality and freedom from oppression for all human beings, whether it be religion , women and childrens’ rights, African American, LGBT etc.. they have devoted to and given their lives in support of equality.

I just thought as a society we had come a little further than this.  As the song says “People are People so why should it be…”

I was and still am in a shock over what I read!  I kept thinking it must be a joke!  I knew not everyone accepted the gay community and relationships and different religious beliefs but this has taken it to a totally new level for me!!

Some people in the state of Arizona are just now realizing that gay people have money and buy stuff.” REALLY!!??….REALLY!!??

The following is what I read, I am still in disbelief , actually speechless!

The state of Arizona found itself in the middle of a conundrum today as it awoke to the awkward realization that gay people have money and buy stuff. – Wakey ,Wakey!

Just days after the Arizona legislature passed a law that would enable businesses to discriminate against gays, it emerged that gays spend billions of dollars in Arizona each year—an unexpected development that seemed to take many legislators by surprise.- Educated people, running the state? hmmm??

Carol Foyler, a Tea Party Republican who supported the anti-gay law, said that the startling bombshell that gays play a role in the state’s economy put her and her fellow lawmakers “in a tight spot.”- ya think?

“Quite frankly, we were blindsided by this,” she said. “We had no idea that gays had money and bought things just like regular people do.”- are you kidding?

Acknowledging that her vote for the anti-gay law might have been calamitous for the state’s economy, Ms. Foyler placed the blame for it squarely on the shoulders of one group: the gays themselves. – ???

“How was I supposed to know what gay people do with their money, etc., when I don’t personally know any gay people?” she asked. “I’m sorry, but it was up to the gays to tell us.”- honestly?! this is just stupidity!

Another article came out late Wednesday night

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoed a bill Wednesday that would have allowed businesses that asserted their religious beliefs the right to deny service to gay and lesbian customers.- Good

The controversial measure faced a surge of opposition in recent days from large corporations and athletic organizations, including Delta Air Lines, the Super Bowl host committee and Major League Baseball. – Even Better

Fiercely divided supporters and opponents of the bill ramped up pressure on Brewer after the state’s Republican-led Legislature approved it last week. – Good!

On Wednesday, the governor said she made the decision she knew was right for Arizona.

“I call them as I see them, despite the cheers or the boos from the crowd,” Brewer said, criticizing what she described as a “broadly worded” bill that “could result in unintended and negative consequences.” – She is standing for what she believes in…

Brewer said she’d weighed the arguments on both sides before vetoing the measure, which is known as SB 1062.- Smart

Questions courtesy of CNN 😀

  • Did Gov. Brewer make the right call?
  • How will her decision potentially affect other states looking at similar legislation?
  • Do you think businesses should have the right to choose who they serve? Should a company be able to refuse service to same-sex couples because its religious beliefs do not coincide with customers’ sexual orientations?
  • Are religious freedom laws just a license to discriminate?